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It's an absolutely wonderful tool, but if I had some suggestions to make it more absolutely wonderful: more than 6 note polyphony, allow BPM lower than 60, and perhaps some level of custom quantization so you could do triplets and sixteenth notes.
Plus, I use glissandos all the time. I don't know how hard it would be to add a "slide" function like that, to allow a cascade of notes (high-to-low or low-to-high) in the space of just a beat or two.
I would like to have a copy and paste command to repeat or move sequences. Moreover it would be great having some multiple selection related comand. it can be a good option having the possibility to place half time note, for example a 1/16 in a 4/4 rthym, obviusly withouth letting placing a note 1/16 after (because the two hole would collide in one big whole), maybe it can be used a differnt color (violet, purple?) for this problematic notes
Yeah, I think that being able to add notes in the middle of lines and being able to copy-paste sections of notes are my top wishlist features, as well as being able to delete sections of notes. But I understand that implementing these features would require fundamentally redoing the grid interface. MusicBoxManiacs, we do appreciate the editor for what it is!
A way to add these in-between-the-lines notes that might not be so difficult to implement might be the ability to condense tunes. By this, I mean you would create your tune at, say, 150 BPM, and then you'd have the option to export it so that it could be played at 75 BPM on a music box. Then, the editor itself wouldn't have to deal with two notes occupying the same line. It could still play at 150 BPM on the website, but you could also be able to play it on a regular music box.
The biggest challenges would be figuring out where to put this option and allowing for the PDFs that show the printed strip to have notes in between the lines. Hypothetically, this would be a way to do triplets and glissandos, but there would be some re-formatting of things to be able to accommodate x marks on the PDFS that lie a 1/4, 1/3, or 1/2 of the way in on a line (or even messier fractions if you allowed for condensing by factors that weren't 2, 3, or 4, such as from 150 BPM to 60 BPM).
i know you can duplicate the BPM to have 1/16 notes, but the gear box of the music boxes is designed to have 1:1 ratio between the crankshaft and the music BPM. Turning the crankshaft at 120 average BMP is already quite difficult, duplicate it would be impossible withouth using a motor. I don't think this is a valid solution, i prefer erase the 1/16 notes at all
Another cool featur would be the possibility to mark any vertical line (for example, increasing its width and coulor) and adding on it labels, to distinguish more easily different sections of the song (like chorus, verse, exc.)
You can do 16th notes on music boxes, but it requires punching in between the lines. I think there are some songs that would be greatly improved by triplets and 16th notes, so I suggested that you create a song with a high BPM here on MBM, and then it could be condensed during the exporting process to allow notes in between the lines. That way, you could have even fast BPM songs on a real music box without actually turning the music box at that fast BPM. It is weird that the default BPM is 110 when that's an unrealistic speed for a music box, huh?
Rather than deleting one bar it would be useful to be able to delete whole sections. This would allow for importing of midi files and then cropping sections like song intro, solo or melodies.
Also, sometime I have imported and then converted to kikkerland 15 only to lose parts. it would be useful to be able to drag up/down octaves
Please include a note on the online editor that at least 16 bars must be completed to save, or give the option to save as draft but not publish publicly less than that.
I'm very impressed with the accuracy of the printed PDFs. They come out perfect.
Editing in this program is very clumsy though. I can't find any way to open a draft once it is saved to keep editing it. I can see the draft but nothing I try will open it. Same thing for melodies that have been published. I can listen to them but I can't open them for editing or printing.
Also having a lot of difficulty converting from MIDI files. They will usually run ok for a few seconds and then a beat gets added or removed which causes major headaches.
I appreciate the program but it needs to be more user friendly. Kind regards... :)
May I also suggest adding cut and paste functions and it would be great if you could "move the playhead" so you don't have to play the entire melody every time when you just want to hear a piece towards the end...
In regards to that last issue you mentioned, that feature is in the editor! You can right click to bring up a list of options and one of them sets the playhead to wherever you're clicking.
Thanks Erin, that would have saved me so much trouble last night listening to the whole melody 100 times! :) We also found how to open, edit and print once the file is saved. It's kind of hard to find these features, maybe you could make them a little more obvious?
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It's an absolutely wonderful tool, but if I had some suggestions to make it more absolutely wonderful: more than 6 note polyphony, allow BPM lower than 60, and perhaps some level of custom quantization so you could do triplets and sixteenth notes.
Plus, I use glissandos all the time. I don't know how hard it would be to add a "slide" function like that, to allow a cascade of notes (high-to-low or low-to-high) in the space of just a beat or two.
I agree, sometimes we need lower-than-60 BPM melodies too :)
I would like to have a copy and paste command to repeat or move sequences. Moreover it would be great having some multiple selection related comand.
it can be a good option having the possibility to place half time note, for example a 1/16 in a 4/4 rthym, obviusly withouth letting placing a note 1/16 after (because the two hole would collide in one big whole), maybe it can be used a differnt color (violet, purple?) for this problematic notes
Yeah, I think that being able to add notes in the middle of lines and being able to copy-paste sections of notes are my top wishlist features, as well as being able to delete sections of notes. But I understand that implementing these features would require fundamentally redoing the grid interface. MusicBoxManiacs, we do appreciate the editor for what it is!
A way to add these in-between-the-lines notes that might not be so difficult to implement might be the ability to condense tunes. By this, I mean you would create your tune at, say, 150 BPM, and then you'd have the option to export it so that it could be played at 75 BPM on a music box. Then, the editor itself wouldn't have to deal with two notes occupying the same line. It could still play at 150 BPM on the website, but you could also be able to play it on a regular music box.
The biggest challenges would be figuring out where to put this option and allowing for the PDFs that show the printed strip to have notes in between the lines. Hypothetically, this would be a way to do triplets and glissandos, but there would be some re-formatting of things to be able to accommodate x marks on the PDFS that lie a 1/4, 1/3, or 1/2 of the way in on a line (or even messier fractions if you allowed for condensing by factors that weren't 2, 3, or 4, such as from 150 BPM to 60 BPM).
i know you can duplicate the BPM to have 1/16 notes, but the gear box of the music boxes is designed to have 1:1 ratio between the crankshaft and the music BPM. Turning the crankshaft at 120 average BMP is already quite difficult, duplicate it would be impossible withouth using a motor. I don't think this is a valid solution, i prefer erase the 1/16 notes at all
Another cool featur would be the possibility to mark any vertical line (for example, increasing its width and coulor) and adding on it labels, to distinguish more easily different sections of the song (like chorus, verse, exc.)
You can do 16th notes on music boxes, but it requires punching in between the lines. I think there are some songs that would be greatly improved by triplets and 16th notes, so I suggested that you create a song with a high BPM here on MBM, and then it could be condensed during the exporting process to allow notes in between the lines. That way, you could have even fast BPM songs on a real music box without actually turning the music box at that fast BPM. It is weird that the default BPM is 110 when that's an unrealistic speed for a music box, huh?
Rather than deleting one bar it would be useful to be able to delete whole sections. This would allow for importing of midi files and then cropping sections like song intro, solo or melodies.
Also, sometime I have imported and then converted to kikkerland 15 only to lose parts. it would be useful to be able to drag up/down octaves
I need BPM lower than 60 and notes between vertical lines (1/16 and better: freely adjustable).
Please include a note on the online editor that at least 16 bars must be completed to save, or give the option to save as draft but not publish publicly less than that.
Yes, there are much to many dull tries and "Unknown Artist - Untitled" experiments.
I'm very impressed with the accuracy of the printed PDFs. They come out perfect.
Editing in this program is very clumsy though. I can't find any way to open a draft once it is saved to keep editing it. I can see the draft but nothing I try will open it. Same thing for melodies that have been published. I can listen to them but I can't open them for editing or printing.
Also having a lot of difficulty converting from MIDI files. They will usually run ok for a few seconds and then a beat gets added or removed which causes major headaches.
I appreciate the program but it needs to be more user friendly. Kind regards... :)
May I also suggest adding cut and paste functions and it would be great if you could "move the playhead" so you don't have to play the entire melody every time when you just want to hear a piece towards the end...
In regards to that last issue you mentioned, that feature is in the editor! You can right click to bring up a list of options and one of them sets the playhead to wherever you're clicking.
Thanks Erin, that would have saved me so much trouble last night listening to the whole melody 100 times! :) We also found how to open, edit and print once the file is saved. It's kind of hard to find these features, maybe you could make them a little more obvious?